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    I'm experiencing frequent dropouts with iReal Pro on my iMac.
    I.e. Playback stops (and audio crackles for a moment) and then restarts after a moment or two.
    Sometimes it stops completely and I have to restart playback manually.

    What are the types of things that might cause this behaviour?
    It never used to happen.

    My song list is just over 1900 songs at the moment.
    Could that be the cause of it?
    I add at least 1 new song nearly every day and I've noticed it getting worse and worse day by day.

    My iMac has 24 GBs of RAM.
    I'm on the latest version of MacOS.
    My startup volume is an external 1TB SSD with more than 1/2 of its memory still free.
    I'm using an original RME Babyface audio interface via USB.

    [I just realized that I can turn off iCloud Sync.
    I guess I'll try that and see if it helps.]

    Any other tips or advice?

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    Nobody?

    FWIW Disabling iCloud sync has not solved the issue.

    Is it the large number of Song files I've got now?
    That's the only other thing I can think of.
    (Unless it's got to do with the Babyface (original) becoming increasingly incompatible with newer versions of MacOS.)
    I'd rather not go through the long process of culling my Song list if doing so is unlikely to help.

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    Hey Joe
    I’m not the right person to help as I’m not a Mac user.
    That said, it’s unlikely your issue is related to the size of your iRp library.
    iRp song code is very data-thrifty. I probably have easily 10 times as many charts on my iPad mini.

    Please be patient. Support request volume is waaaaay up during the holiday season.

    If there are no other replies here within a few days, you can copy your detailed posts and email:
    support@irealpro.com

    I suspect that's very busy as well with many new users and their new Christmas devices.

    The “usual” 1st fix attempt is to make a backup of your library (there's a utility within the app) save via email or Dropbox etc.

    https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en...aylists/?p=mac

    Then delete the iRp app, make sure there are no additional copies of the app hiding somewhere. Then reinstall using the same store account (no additional charge)
    and import the backup you created.

    https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en...st-song/?p=mac

    I’d probably wait to hear from a Mac person before pressing forward…

    Sorry for your inconvenience, hope it's resolved soon.

    )BOB

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    Thanks Bob!

    The only other thing I can think of is that with many of my song files, I've had to be 'creative' in order to get the iReal 'rhythm section' to output what I need it to for practice purposes.

    E.g. I often have 4/4 bars reduced to a single iReal 'beat' in order to save room on the page.
    E.g. I often have 4/4 bars expanded to 4 'beats' so I can have a chord change on beats 2 or 4.
    Etc.

    If it keeps happening (so far so good today), I'll try backing up, deleting the app and then re-installing it, as you suggested.

    Thanks again.

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    In iRp, spaces do not = beats
    One space w/ one chord = one measure (if enclosed w/ bar lines)
    Number of “beats” is determined by the time-sig and style.

    PLAYER CHARTS vs. READER CHARTS
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...5854#post25854

    Unless “dropouts” only happen when playing specific charts, it's not likely that chart spacing is the issue.

    Confirming that you are not using a Bluetooth device for audio….

    )BOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxdjazz View Post
    In iRp, spaces do not = beats
    One space w/ one chord = one measure (if enclosed w/ bar lines)

    PLAYER CHARTS vs. READER CHARTS
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...5854#post25854

    )BOB
    Obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joegold View Post
    I'm experiencing frequent dropouts with iReal Pro on my iMac.
    I.e. Playback stops (and audio crackles for a moment) and then restarts after a moment or two.
    Sometimes it stops completely and I have to restart playback manually...
    Sorry for this problem,
    Please contact us directly at our support so we can help you specifically.

    1 please try with only your Mac internal speakers to rule out any problems with audio interfaces, their drivers, (or bluetooth etc.)

    2 try a reboot

    3 You could try turning off wifi/ethernet just to rule out any interference that might be causing this

    4 you can try a full clean and reinstall, please backup your songs (iReal Pro Preferences, Utilities, Backup):
    https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en...aylists/?p=mac

    then use this information:
    https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en...clean-install/
    You can then drag the backup file on to iReal Pro's icon on the dock to import your songs again.

    Sorry for this problem,
    Thank you

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    Thank you dflat!
    )BOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by dflat View Post
    Sorry for this problem,
    Please contact us directly at our support so we can help you specifically.

    1 please try with only your Mac internal speakers to rule out any problems with audio interfaces, their drivers, (or bluetooth etc.)

    2 try a reboot

    3 You could try turning off wifi/ethernet just to rule out any interference that might be causing this

    4 you can try a full clean and reinstall, please backup your songs (iReal Pro Preferences, Utilities, Backup):
    https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en...aylists/?p=mac

    then use this information:
    https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en...clean-install/
    You can then drag the backup file on to iReal Pro's icon on the dock to import your songs again.

    Sorry for this problem,
    Thank you
    Great suggestions.
    Thanks.
    I'll try all that.
    I've already deleted the app and associated files and re-installed it from the App Store.
    But I've had no time to check it yet.
    IIRC it also happens when using built-in audio but I could be mistaken about that.

    It might be a wifi thing.
    I'll try that next.

    Thanks again.

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    FWIW

    I really haven't been playing with iRP as much lately, and when I have, I've been mostly using the internal speakers of my iMac and did not notice the dropouts happening.
    I've only had one quick instance when the problem happened again, and I was using my Babyface (original) audio interface at the time.

    I suspect that the drivers that RME supplies for this discontinued product might not be up to snuff with the current versions of MacOS, although their download site says they still are.

    I'd try running the Babyface in Class Compliant Mode, which bypasses RME's drivers, to see if that helps.
    But then the only way I can control the BF's volume is at the interface itself (i.e. no software mixer) which is not practical with my current setup.

    I've tried everything else suggested in this thread so far.

    Is anybody else out there using an original (i.e. non "Pro") version of the Babyface w/o this issue?
    I suspect that this problem is driver oriented.

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