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    Default Chord thoughts

    Hi there, first post. I registered here to talk about my chord symbol preferences but at this point I’m thinking that the best solution would be to have users be able to control their own library of “valid” chord symbols. I don’t know much about the technical aspects so I’m not sure if this is feasible. I have my reasons for writing chords the way I do, and probably everyone feels the same way.
    Well anyhow, I’d like to be able to use the augmented symbol “+” for augmented chords. E.G., A7+5 or C^+5. I get that the sharp symbol is there for this, but I guess I prefer the “+” because it means “augmented” and I’m trying to notate augmented chords.
    It would be nice to be able to add “#11” or “+5” directly after the triangle for extensions on major 7th chords. It seems like you have to specify “7” first, but that seems redundant as the triangle already stands for “maj7”, and anyway if you are making chord charts for jazz musicians to interpret, the baseline assumption for ALL chords is that they are 7th chords, at least. I never actually write “7” unless I am specifying a dominant chord. On my charts I aim to communicate clearly, quickly, with the least ink possible, to the worst reader on the gig. I only specify extensions in cases when the melody requires it. I would prefer a library of voicings which supports that economy better.
    But again, maybe letting everyone follow their own preferences would be the best.

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    When you use chords that are written to be recognized by the player, you will have backing-track/practice functionality. Your charts will also use the chord symbols that are familiar to the many thousands of musicians using iReal pro.
    Recognized chords are listed in the chord menu in the editor.

    For your own read-only gig charts you can pretty much follow your preferred conventions. In the iRp editor, non-recognized chords will be written in blue. When the chart is saved, your chords will be printed on the chart.
    When the iRp player encounters an unrecognized chord, it only sounds the root bass note.

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    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...8916-Cmaj7add9
    )BOB

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    A good way to solve this is to have alternate notation preferences in the general setting (the same way we can choose between the "m" and "-" character for minor chords). Just need to add a few others common chord symbols. That would also free up space in the chord library to add some other new chords.
    For ex: I don't see the point of having both ∆7 and ∆ chords or -7b5 and ∅ and ∅7 in the library. The preferred chord symbol could be set in the app setting

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    Here's below the equivalence of the chords in the library:

    C∆7 = C∆
    C∅ = C∅7 = C-7b5
    C7b5 = C7#11
    C7#5 = C7b13
    C9b5 = C9#11
    C7b9b13 = C7b9#5
    C7b9b5 = C7b9#11
    C11 = C7sus

    That's about 9 chords that could be removed from the chord library if they can be added instead as preference in the app option setting (just like "m" or "-" for minor chords)

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    I suggest turning chords off with just bass and hearing the scales. Paul Desmond does this several versions of Take Five.
    Also the "Holy Grail" of this approach is Ravels Bolero
    Don't post a playlist as the songs in a Realbook if the changes aren't from the book.
    If you do transcribe changes from a book put it in the title RB1, RB2, GGB, Sher, etc

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