Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: Pensativa - Clare Fischer

  1. #1

    Default Pensativa - Clare Fischer

    I edited the iRealbook version to reflect Clare's changes

    Pensativa (Clare's Changes) by Clare Fischer
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 01-17-2016 at 09:22 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    312

    Default

    Pensativa - Clare Fischer
    A few chords spelled out a little to better fit the melody.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    838

    Default

    The chart I posted is from the composer's original version (Clare Fischer with Bud Shank in 1962). The one you posted is a different version from some other artist. I suggest you also indicate the artist name in your chart and/or a YouTu be link

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    838

    Default

    FYI, here's a statement from Clare Fischer about that song (from Wikipedia):

    "That has been recorded by some jazz players - Freddie Hubbard is one of them. They don't understand two-beat samba, so they play it like a 4... [demonstrating], then they change the melody, then they change the chords, which are going into what we call bebop II-V. Mine go [plays mm. 9 through 13]. He recorded that with Art Blakey. Very famous. 85 percent of the people who know that song know it from that recording. Everyone who records it now plays it with the same cancer that I've had all my life with that song. I've been unable to disestablish that because I don't sell as many records as Freddie Hubbard. It gets to a point where you say, "Hey! It's my song. Yeah." Well, it doesn't make any difference."

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    312

    Default

    The reason I posted was because some of the chords won't fit the melody. i.e., The se ond chord has to be G7+11, not G7.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    838

    Default

    Like I said, the chart I posted is about the original version by Clare Fischer. So there's no such thing as G7 or G7+11 in the 2nd and 4th bar of the head in that recording. However, for the intro and the solo parts, they do play a G9.
    You're probably referring to the Art Blakey arrangement of the song, where they play like you said, a G7+11. That version is a pretty straight forward jazz arrangement.
    In the original version by Clare Fischer (or any version where he plays), the second chord of the head is a bit more obscur. My guess is that he got the influence of classical Bach music. The voicing there is something like F# (at the bottom), D, A, B. (This is why I've notated it B-7/F#).
    But actually adding the notes from the melody (C# F, G#) produces this particular dissonant Bach harmony (in other word, it's basically a F# minor chord with a D diminished chord on top of it.
    Looking forward to discuss further this topic, but make sure you listen first the composer's original recording so we are on the same page

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    838

    Default

    This chart from Clare Fischer original version (with Bud Shank in 1962). This is NOT the Art Blakey arrangement

    Pensativa - Clare Fischer (Bud Shank & Clare Fischer)

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    312

    Default

    You can even hear the bassist playing the +11 (or flat 5) on the G7 chord.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    838

    Default

    1) For the first 4 bars of the head, there's no G in that version performed by Clare Fischer (except for the intro and solos)
    2) The D is more important than the C# in that chord. The C# is already played in the melody. No need to add it again (but you can if you want to)
    3) It's not because the bass player is playing a C# that you need to add it in the chord

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    312

    Default

    No one is playing a D in those chords either.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Do you have any questions?

Check out our Support page

Sign up to our newsletter
Join us