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    TEACHERS LOUNGE - Music Instruction and iReal pro


    Music teachers, instructors, mentors....

    How are you using iReal pro with your students?
    Share your tips and tricks.
    Do you use a projector or big screen display for groups?
    How do you use iReal pro in the classroom?
    What works for you?

    Students....
    What have your teachers done that have been most helpful for you?

    Join in the conversation here.

    Let's help each other better help our students.

    )BOB

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    Posted previously by Admin:
    Here:
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...lesson-setting

    Here are some ideas

    - you can export audio files for students with ipods etc. (not MP3, only wav and aac export)

    - midi export, they can use it in Sibelius, Finale, midi player apps etc. for practice. If teaching piano or bass, they can analyze the voicings or bass lines.

    - use musicXML export (into Finale etc.) for further editing etc.

    - exercises, other users have posted some here:
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...tice-Exercises
    or make up your own

    - give them URLs or YouTube links to performances of songs they are learning in iReal b

    - add text at any measure for playing tips or ideas

    - any chart can be exported as a PDF or jpg which can be used on tablets, ipads, computers or printed. You could prepare a number of charts (and other notes) into a single PDF document for their lessons (PDFs can be imported into Kindles - or just printed!)

    - a 'song' could just be text (very limited use!) - New song, Blank … just type in the Text window, you will need to tap to the next system below. Slightly useful perhaps?

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    If they have iReal Pro:
    - iReal Pro installs on the cheaper ipod touch and most android devices. Song files are compatible between devices, so you can send them songs or exercises for practice. You could use a specific 'name' in the composer field so it relates to you (easier for them to find the practice pieces you have created) and they can put them into a playlist; or create specific playlists with exercises in for different levels of students.

    - guitar, bass players can use a connector on their iPhone (iPod touch) like AmpKit iLink or iRig:
    http://www.peavey.com/products/ampkitlink/
    http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irig/
    then run iReal Pro in the background and have the guitar work through the effects pedals on a suitable app (lots of fun, as well as a way to get them to practice.)

    - they can use tap tempo to play along at different speeds; or set tempo at speeds you would like them to practice with (use text telling them the bpm in each song)

    - use the Practice feature (in the Player window) for tempo and/or key changes each chorus

    - use the scales or piano or guitar diagrams - in the Hub for reference or activated during (slow!) playback with each measure

    - use loop for practice - ideas, riffs, licks etc.

    - use different playback styles for fun

    - they can use iBooks (forscore, PDF viewer etc.) to view a PDF of exercises, notation, licks you have prepared and run iReal Pro player in the background

    - they could import the audio from iReal Pro, into a multitrack recording app (Garageband or similar), add their playing to it and email it to you for assessment

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    There is both global transpose in Settings for setting the transposing instrument, then song transpose for each chart. The player always plays in concert key. You will need to be aware of this if you are preparing audio export or jpg/pdf export etc.

    I hope something here helps.
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 12-18-2019 at 02:08 PM. Reason: updated app name to iReal Pro as it called now

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    From Andyspianotips:
    By the way,
    If I wanted to organize a group of these for my students to download easily with 1 click (as I've done with Jazz 1300 / Pop 400), what's the best way to do that? (Secondly, if I included the files in a group on Facebook, is it easy enough for them to download it from there or is it much better to do it directly through the forums in the app?)

    -Andy
    Hi Andy,
    There are lots of ways to share iRp charts and playlists.
    You can use email, dropbox and other file storage/sharing services or start a *single* sandbox thread titled:
    Andyspianotips charts
    Then share the url of the thread (link) with your students.
    Remember, from time to time admin may delete sandbox posts.
    Use personal email, Dropbox, Drive, cloud, etc. to archive your iRp files and backup(s).
    Thanks
    )BOB

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    Ellie here

    I have iReal Pro for several years but just started exploring it last fall. I have have shared it this year with a couple of my students so now I have to keep ahead of them and learn a little more each week than they know.

    Any ideas for the best way for me to do that?

    Also I started today readings other posts here!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicmasters18 View Post
    Any ideas for the best way for me to do that?
    Hello Ellie,
    Three suggestions to learn and teach iReal Pro...

    1
    Look through the Tutorials (found within the app, More>Tutorials; or found in Help, Mac version)

    2
    Refer to the glossary here at the forum which will give you an idea of the kinds of things the app does, and the terms used:
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...SARY-iReal-Pro
    (I updated it recently, March 2018)

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    Iíve suggested to a number of teachers a different approach to what was the traditional way to teach in the past.
    A collaborative approach to learning an app and its functions could be adopted instead, where ďhomeworkĒ for each student would be to learn a different small function of an app to teach others in class. The teacher also takes part.

    Each studentís explanation could be discussed and explored in class so every student (and teacher) understands the function, along with practicing the settings or functioning a number of times so itís fluent and understood for everyone.

    The role of the teacher provides guidance, makes sure course requirements are met for assessment and that each topic for each student is achievable, determines any appropriate order of each topic based on difficulty for the class (etc.)

    Apps can be (seemingly at least) complex and unknown when first starting out and sharing the learning process together might be more effective and fun.

    One student might learn/teach recording (this is often used for teacher assessment and feedback purposes).

    A bass player might explain the mixer and how to turn off the bass volume so they can practice at home.

    A couple of students, one a pianist, the other clarinet, might explain global transpose settings then be able to demonstrate this to the others, reading the same chart in the appropriate key for their instrument.

    A drummer might explain how to change to different styles and set tempo.

    A songwriter might describe how to create a new song and enter the chords.

    Describing using iReal Pro for performance might include setting night mode, playback position, mixer volumes, highlight rehearsal symbols.

    Someone might explain where to set ukulele font, and library to learn chord diagrams.

    A more advanced student might export the midi file of a song into GarageBand to be used as a basis of recording other tracks with students.

    Split screen (iPad) might be shown using another app to display a PDF of a melody or lyrics.

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    Default Use of Record feature

    Using the built-in Record feature, teachers can get their students to submit their playing for evaluation; or teachers can make a quick recording of their playing so students can use it as a reference or inspiration.

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    I think I might be one of the few Jazz Cellists in the world,,, so Iím not good with improv. Any advice??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gboling View Post
    I think I might be one of the few Jazz Cellists in the world,,, so Iím not good with improv. Any advice??
    Listen!
    When someone just plays scales that some book says will work over certain chords...it's not musical.
    When you "think" your way through a tune, that's exactly what it sounds like.
    In order for improvised music to come out through your fingers, it needs to originate deep inside. The way it gets inside is through your ears.
    You will begin to play phrases and licks you've heard but aren't arent copying or "stealing". It's simply coming out.
    Listen!
    Then, listen some more.

    Begin to see music as a CHORD PROGRESSION instead of as a melody line.
    Look online for a mandolin chord chart.
    The note names are different but the CHORD SHAPES will apply to the cello.
    Explore these tunes:
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...6797#post46797
    Try different styles and tempos. Try turning "Embellished Chords" on. Try turning the chord instrument off in the mixer, just playing with the bass and drums.
    Experiment. Take liberties with the timing and phrasing. Try adding harmonies.
    There are no wrong notes. Some notes just sound better than others.
    Listen!
    It's a process..............
    )BOB

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    thanks Bob for the tips.

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