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    Hello,

    I registered here to ask some question, before buying the app.
    My piano teachers said that there are some app that create a band to play along with your piano practise. I found this app.
    Currentky, i am learning some Martha Mier's jazz Raggs and Blues song from book 1. http://www.alfred.com/Products/A--00-6642.aspx

    Are these song already in the library to download? If yes, where can i find them. If no, would anyone be so kind to put in the "Just Struttin Along" and "Ragtime Do Si Do"
    if you pm me your email, i can send you the piano score (very short)

    many thanks, Johan
    Last edited by johand; 10-28-2015 at 03:16 AM.

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    You can search the thousands of user generated charts in the forums by title, keyword, composer etc.
    Just select the magnifying glass icon at the top of any page.
    The iReal pro app is needed to download charts.
    The app does indeed have an excellent player feature.
    )BOB

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    Hello, First of all, Thanks for helping me out.

    I started almost 2 yrs ago without any music knowledge. I have since then classical piano training, so I know something about chords (not that much). I do know and hear the difference between majorand minor triads. I also know that 7th chords have that last (7th) note attached to the major and minor chord. But that's about it. Don't know exactly what augmented and diminished is, but that's stuff for later I guess...

    1 - Can you clarify this a little, Do you mean "/" by "splotch" You are talking about bar 3 and 4 no? What should it be in those bars?
    "The "splotch" (blank chord) is used to add specific bass notes (slash chords) without re-writing the chord's root over and over. The first slash chord's root must be entered, otherwise the player will use the previous chord (which may not be what you intend)"

    2 - I think you may prefer your first Bb (bar 6) as a G or G7 chord.
    I changed it but I don't know exactly why. There is no G note in that 6th bar?

    Ragtime Do Si Do - Mier

    I will post all future Martha Mier's pieces I tackle with my teacher in this thread.
    Should I edit posts with earlier versions of this piece (and delete it there) to keep the forums clean, and only have 1 correct version in the thread?

    BR, Johan

    PS: I saw someone entered Tim Richards book "Improvising Blues Piano" in here. That's also great! I just began in that book.
    http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...s-piano-chpt-1
    Last edited by johand; 10-30-2015 at 03:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johand View Post

    2 - I think you may prefer your first Bb (bar 6) as a G or G7 chord.
    I changed it but I don't know exactly why. There is no G note in that 6th bar?
    .
    Should I edit posts with earlier versions of this piece (and delete it there) to keep the forums clean, and only have 1 correct version in the thread?
    2- Listen to it both ways as you play along with the player and choose the one that sounds better.

    When all the Mier-book charts are posted, we'll combine them into a single playlist.

    Since our posted discussion applies to the initially posted version, it makes sense (and may be instructive to others) to leave the first chart up.
    If you post a chart, then notice an error, it would make sense to edit the chart and just replace the first one with the corrected one.
    )BOB

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    Hello,

    My teacher was so enthousiast about my new app, that she was going to buy it as well!
    We had a few questions:

    1. For Martha mier's Just Struttin Along, there's "Jazz Medium Swing" and the band plays triplets for 2 1/8 notes
    https://goo.gl/photos/uGGyniLnW9yJ67M98
    2. For Ragtime Do Si Do, the band also plays triplets, but it should play 2 1/8 notes evenly. How do I set this?
    https://goo.gl/photos/ppx9btL3br86TH396

    I want to buy a book with most tunes that I can find in the 1300 Jazz standards or The Gig Book thread.
    The book should be fun for a 2yrs piano student. Which book do I buy? And what are the easiest jazz pieces I should tackle?

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    iReal pro charts can't easily show pushes, triplets, off-beat accents and syncopations.

    Some users try to force the player to play half-beats.
    Half-beats
    http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...-on-half-beats
    http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...chopate-chords

    As to references, download the GGB lead-sheets. You will learn to play chords* with your left hand and also become familiar with standards.
    Link here:
    http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...2838#post32838

    *remember to check out the piano-chord display function in the iReal pro app!

    Easy pieces?
    Start with a tune that's already familiar to you. (there are reasons why they are "standards")

    Jumping straight into the jazz end of the pool is ambitious.

    Look at this playlist too:
    http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...0215#post30215

    Nothing new is easy, 'til it is...
    )BOB
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 11-04-2015 at 04:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johand View Post
    1. For Martha mier's Just Struttin Along, there's "Jazz Medium Swing" and the band plays triplets for 2 1/8 notes
    https://goo.gl/photos/uGGyniLnW9yJ67M98
    This one you can use the Jazz medium swing. It indicates that the 8th notes are played in a swing feel even though they are notated as even 8ths.

    Quote Originally Posted by johand View Post
    2. For Ragtime Do Si Do, the band also plays triplets, but it should play 2 1/8 notes evenly. How do I set this?
    https://goo.gl/photos/ppx9btL3br86TH396
    This one says 'even 8ths' so it is telling you to play them as they are notated (not as a swing feel.)
    So you can choose Jazz Even 8ths or Ballad Even.

    Remember you can change the tempo, so making sure you play it correctly (many many times), before you choose a slightly faster tempo.

    I hope you and your teacher are having fun with all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johand View Post
    Hello, First of all, Thanks for helping me out.

    Can you clarify this a little, Do you mean "/" by "splotch" You are talking about bar 3 and 4 no? What should it be in those bars?
    The slash "/” is used in two ways.
    1. Chords should be entered on the first space in a measure. If they are to start later in the measure, enter a slash (/) on each beat where the chord from the preceding measure is to be continued.
    |C |//D |G |

    2. As part of a chord to designate a specific bass note as part of the chord.
    eg. C7/Bb (a C7 chord with a Bb bass note)

    When there is a specific bass sequence under a chord, you can use the invisible "splotch" or blob (which only shows in the editor) instead of writing the chord name each time when the only note changing is the bass note.
    The first slash chord's name must be entered, otherwise the player will use the previous chord (which may not be what you intend)


    bass notes
    also known as inversions, bass notes only, hidden chords, invisible chords
    To hide the chord symbol but provide a bass note, use the invisible character. It looks like a blue (pink in android) blob in Song edit, and is used as a blank for the chord letter. In Song edit, tap on/click the invisible character (it only shows in Song Edit) then insert a Slash, then enter the bass note. In the Mac version, you can also type w.

    Here is an example:

    Invisible - Test

    )BOB
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 10-30-2015 at 01:41 PM.

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    If I search on composers name "Martha Mier" no result, neither on song name. is there a way to get it in the list by request?

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    Or simply enter the chord changes using the app's built-in editor.

    Ask your instructor to help you.

    http://irealpro.com/input-a-complete...der-3-minutes/
    )BOB

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