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    Default (My) Secret Love - Sammy Fain-Paul Francis Webster (Bobby Sherwood-Mitchell Parish)

    Secret Love - Arrangement

    The version in Jazz 1300 Standards is a ballad. This is a Swing Two/Four with pedal points and breaks.

    Secret Love Rev - Sammy Fain

    Cheers,
    Jer
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    Default Secret Love - Sammy Fain, Paul Francis Webster.

    Secret Love reharm


    The title in Jazz 1300 Standards is My Secret Love, but I've only ever heard it called just Secret Love.

    Secret Love Rev - Sammy Fain

    Cheers,
    Jer
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    I never noticed that entry in the 1300. There is a work by Roger Vogel called "My Secret Love" which is completely different, but the chord changes on the iRP chart are for Sammy Fain's composition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaleMac View Post
    I never noticed that entry in the 1300. There is a work by Roger Vogel called "My Secret Love" which is completely different, but the chord changes on the iRP chart are for Sammy Fain's composition.
    Thanks. In checking my mistake, I found something strange:

    Yes, there is a composition called My Secret Love, by Roger Vogel, which is not a pop or jazz tune, but the setting of a poem for women's chorus, and the iReal Pro changes to My Secret Love are for a song by Sherwood and Parish (not Sammy Fain).

    But it's even stranger:

    The tune called simply Secret Love is by Sammy Fain and Paul Francis Webster. But My Secret Love is by Bobby Sherwood and Mitchell Parish, and it's the same tune. Except for very minor differences in the opening chords, they are identical, with the same melody and the same harmonic structure.

    They can be found on YouTube in many places. Here are just samples:

    Secret Love

    My Secret Love

    My Secret Love by Roger Vogel

    As you'll see, except for some extra chords in the A section of Secret Love, on iReal Pro it's the same as My Secret Love.

    No wonder I was confused.

    So not only did iReal Pro assign Roger Vogel's name incorrectly, but there seems to be a difference over who actually wrote the pop/jazz tune (My) Secret Love. Yet I haven't seen anything on the Web about a disputed copyright.

    Cheers,
    Jer

    P.S. I also found that the Jamey Aebersold play-along version of the tune is My Secret Love, attributed to Parish and Sherwood, which uses the same changes as IRealpro's Secret Love. So it's not only me who is confused.
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    Moved here from a visitor message:

    Quote Originally Posted by skabiddy View Post
    I figured out the repeat dilemma on My Secret Love. My Secret Love was not right, so I hunted and pecked around until it sounds like it should.

    My Secret Love 1 - Sammy Fain
    Remember to share additional versions of songs in the discussion thread for that song.
    More:
    https://www.irealb.com/forums/showth...-and-Playlists

    It's also best to NOT wrap/split measures between different lines on a chart. (Your B-section)
    Chart Layout Conventions
    http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...&p=301#post301

    "repeat dilemma"...?
    All of the posted charts have an AABA form.

    )BOB
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 05-16-2017 at 02:07 PM.

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    The Fain-Webster tune is listed as 1953. (not My) S....L....
    https://books.google.com/books?id=Kj...20date&f=false

    http://www.worldcat.org/title/secret...=di&ht=edition

    The Parish-Sherwood song is from 1943. (My S...L...)
    https://books.google.com/books?id=MD...20date&f=false

    http://www.worldcat.org/title/my-sec...=brief_results

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬...my sweet lord, doo-lang, doo-lang, doo-lang...♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Sweet_Lord
    )BOB
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    Yet they not only have the same melody, but (almost) the same title.

    At least George Harrison had the sense use a new title.
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    Thanks Jer,
    Sometimes I wonder (as do you) if our musings slide by unappreciated.
    )BOB

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