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    Who Will Buy? - Lionel Bart (Reharm)

    This is a reharmonized swing version of the tune from Oliver.

    Who Will Buy? Rev - Lionel Bart

    Cheers,
    Jer
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 09-23-2015 at 01:42 PM.
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    Another winner!
    Is there a reason why FINE is necessary in the last bar of the coda?
    )BOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxdjazz View Post
    Another winner!
    Is there a reason why FINE is necessary in the last bar of the coda?
    )BOB
    Thanks, Bob. Good question.

    The iReal Pro program automatically goes past the last written bar and ends on the first beat of the next (non-existent) bar.

    I put an "End" command under the last D-6 to make it end there, but "End" doesn't show except in Edit mode, so I stuck in "FINE" just to indicate that no extra beats would be automatically played.

    I notice that a lot of charts, including some of mine, simply leave off the last ending tonic, since the program automatically plays it after the ending bar line. But I think that's sloppy and would rather show the final chord.

    Cheers,
    Jer
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    Thanks, sounds reasonable. In this case, as info for the musician rather than instructions for the iRp player.
    )BOB
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxdjazz View Post
    Thanks, sounds reasonable. In this case, as info for the musician rather than instructions for the iRp player.
    )BOB
    Exactamente.
    Jerry Engelbach
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    Quote Originally Posted by engelbach View Post
    stuck in "FINE" just to indicate that no extra beats would be automatically played
    Perfectly agree (although guilty of same, sometimes

    Why not prefer the Fermata sign? The FINE tag has player functionality, so might create confusion, while (unfortunately) fermata does not.
    (Just curious. Of course, it's a matter of what structure you're setting up, and how complicated; and for full disclosure, I'm a coherency-addict and purist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalokagathon View Post
    Perfectly agree (although guilty of same, sometimes

    Why not prefer the Fermata sign? The FINE tag has player functionality, so might create confusion, while (unfortunately) fermata does not.
    (Just curious. Of course, it's a matter of what structure you're setting up, and how complicated; and for full disclosure, I'm a coherency-addict and purist
    A fermata means to hold the note beyond its alloted time. In normal notation the value of the final note is specified by the note itself, and if necessary, a tie to the next measure, so a fermata is rarely used there.

    (It would be nice if the fermata symbol had function in iReal Pro. As a sub for it, I add an extra beat to the measure, as in the three and four bars before the end of Quiet Now:
    Quiet Now - Denny Zeitlin

    I want to do the opposite: end immediately on the note with no extra time and without the rhythm of the rest of the measure being played by iReal Pro.

    I suppose one could just write in "END" rather than "FINE" to indicate that the END command was being applied, although that's pretty nonstandard.

    I don't know that "FINE" would be confusing, since it appears at the very close of the tune and not in one of the previous endings.

    Cheers,
    Jer

    P.S. Just curious: Are you Italian, or an ex-pat like me?
    Last edited by engelbach; 10-02-2015 at 10:48 AM.
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    Seven years later, here's my updated (and in some ways simplified) version of this tune.

    Who Will Buy?-Rev JE 2 - Lionel Bart

    Cheers,
    Jer
    Last edited by engelbach; 09-19-2022 at 05:10 PM.
    Jerry Engelbach
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    Nice job. On my copy, I added a start-repeat bracket at the A's start so there would be no confusion as to where I should return.
    I also tweaked the spacing and a rehearsal mark.
    The player wasn’t confused, just me.
    )BOB

    Who Will Buy?-Rev JE 2 - 1 - Lionel Bart

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    [QUOTE=pdxdjazz;71225]Nice job. On my copy, I added a start-repeat bracket at the A's start so there would be no confusion as to where I should return.
    I also tweaked the spacing and a rehearsal mark.
    The player wasn’t confused, just me.
    )BOB

    Good improvements, Bob. Thank you. I should've had that repeat sign up there. And there was no reason for me to use a B section label a second time when the C label is more accurate and gives the same result.

    Cheers,
    Jer
    Jerry Engelbach
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    Pátzcuaro, Michoacán, México
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