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Thread: iiVi recognition skills?

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    Default iiVi recognition skills?

    I'm new to the whole jazz idiom and would like some pointers on recognising where the iiVi can be pointed to in, say, the chart of Don't Get Around Much Anymore CM7 D-7 Ebdim/ E-7/CM7 B7 Bb7/A7 / D-7 /G7 /C6 / G7...... Which is the i ?? If the piece ends on G7, isn't the ii supposed to be B? But the piece begins with CM7. Once I crack the code I'll be fine, but any pointers with examples from the Jazz downloads with this app, would be gratefully received. Hungrily..... bongoman

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    Experiment by transposing the chart to the available *numbers* instead of letter-keys. See if that helps.
    The ii-V-I in your example is in bars 5,6,&7. D-7/G7/C6.
    http://randscullard.com/CircleOfFifths/
    )BOB
    Last edited by pdxdjazz; 11-06-2014 at 02:46 AM.

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    Thank you Bob!

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    So, a iiVi doesn't begin on the ii, first bar??

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    Not in your example. The first ii is used as a passing chord.
    The tune's form is I,(passing chords to get to:)iii,(more passing chords to:) VI, then ii,V,I, and V (as a turnaround) to get back to the top.
    So, in summary, This song (simplified) is I,iii,VI,ii,V,I.
    When using roman numerals, lower-case means minor, V is assumed to be a dominant 7th, and I is a major seventh.
    The circle of fifths is all about "getting back home". Every dominant seventh is another note's "V"....and so on 'til you get home.
    :))BOB

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    Tres interest net Bob, I'll work on it!

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