Hi,
Does anybody know if there is a possibility to connect the instrument to the iPhone and practice with the iRealBook play along through the headphones.
Thanks,
R.
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Hi,
Does anybody know if there is a possibility to connect the instrument to the iPhone and practice with the iRealBook play along through the headphones.
Thanks,
R.
The first thought is using an amp with two inputs (one for iPhone and one for your guitar/bass) and headphone socket. (It is what I use.)
Or using a (cheap) mixer that can function in the same way.
I think it unlikely, but have not tried it, using iRig;
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/irig/features/
and multitasking (iOS4) and the iOS simultaneously being able to output audio from iRig software and iReal book app, Player audio (I am not sure it will do this.)
Perhaps some with this combination could try it for us and report back?
Thanks for the reply.
I have a setup with the amp and mixer, but am trying to make it really minimal. Bass, iRealBook, cable and headphones would be ideal.
I am hoping that iRig would work, but will wait to see if somebody knows that all ready and is willing to share it with us
Regardless iRealBook is by far the best app i have on my iPhone. Looking forward for the next updates.
R.
There is a product called IRig that plugs directly into your iPhone so you can play your axe through it and listen via headphones. Costs around $40. Friend of mine has one and she loves it.
The problem is that somewhere in the chain you will need a (small) amp of some kind (there are headphones with amps built-in) for your bass, but you still need something with two inputs. Boss (or similar) might put out something that could help you. I suppose you could use a double-plug on a single input but that would possibly give you distortion problems etc.
Glad you like our app!
I use Pandora and it works great. Totally portable solution.
Guitar (or bass) plugs in the gtr input, iphone plugs into aux input and output can be a headphone or plug into an amp. Pandora acts as a mixer. the new unit has a USB socket so you can record to a computer.
here is a demo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Pc3swI7tk
Yverof
link here:
http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=290
Thanks Yverof.
dflat,
this one is the new unit and it is VERY expensive. It does also offers a lot of functions which are duplicates of what you can have on software on the iPhone and to fully take advantage of the unit you need to plug it to a PC or Mac so you loose the portability.
I have the previous version, and I should have been more clear in my previous post. Here is the unit.
http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=234
Much smaller, thus portable.
Yverof
You also may want to check out the ampkit link - It's designed to go with ampkit iphone app but I'm pretty sure it can be used as a standalone. I don't have it so can't say for certain. It's a competitor to the irig setup.
Here is an other one from Peavey
http://www.peavey.com/ampkitlink/
Yverof
Hello, new to the forums. I love this app.
Regarding the iRig, that's the first thing I bought when I picked up a new iPhone. I love portable solutions for guitar practice. iRig is just an interface to hook a guitar into the iPhone. You will need some kind of amp simulator app to get a processed sound. For that, I picked up Ampltube for iPhone which is a pretty good amp sim. Only problem is, you cannot multi-task to run both the iRealbook and Amplitube at the same time. This completely bummed me out. I'll have iRealbook playing a chart, which continues to play as I use the multi-tasking function to launch Amplitube. However, once Amplitube launches, iRealbook goes into a "suspend" mode and stops playing. All the phones resources are used to run the foreground app, Amplitube. The same scenarion happens when you open Amplitube first, then launch iRealbook. Like I said, that was a real dissappointment to me as I was really hoping to jam over iRealbook without hooking up further gadgets, defeating the mobile aspect I intended. I can already play along with BIAB on my computer and Line 6 interface. I was hoping I'd have something portable to sit on the porch, by the fireplace, or for travel.
I'm hoping that some solutions are found, either from Apple or the 3rd party app developers to accomodate this. I already understand the concerns about battery drain, but I know how to watch my battery meter.
Other than that, I love the app! I've plugged it into my practice amp (not exactly mobile) and it sounds great! Even better than BIAB which has latency/stuttering problems on my old dog computer.
Yes. I just tried it as a test. I launched iPod, pick a song, let it play, launch Amplitube using the multi-tasker function, and the iPod stops playing the song once Amplitube is fully started.
Amplitube does have a function where you can wifi transfer a song from your computer into the app to jam along with it. I think its a pretty roundabout way to get an mp3 into the app that already resides in my iPhones music library.
Update to this... IK MultiMedia released an update that now allows you to transfer up to 50 songs from your iPod library. Also in the update is the ability to record a track (expandable to 4 tracks as a purchased add on) and the addition of a speed trainer that allows you to loop a portion of a song and manipulate the speed.
What I do is connect my iphone to my home entertainment center, fire up iRealBook and play the iphone through my home speakers like I do with Pandora or Sirrius XM.
I print out the charts and keep the iphone near me so I can change tunes, change tempos, and keys. If I need to practice at night, I plug in my headphones into the home entertainment center. Works like a charm :-) iRealBook Rocks!!
Ghodaddyyo: thanks for sharing your experience.
Actually, that's bad news. I was hoping that the iPad might be able to run amplitube and iRealbook at the same time after the impending iOS4 update. But it sounds like that is no going to work just yet.
The option with an external mixer will work fine when I'm at home, but I am looking for a solution for when I'm travelling. I'm not really jumping to take a mixer along with me.
I too have an iRig. I noticed it works very well with amplitube and studiominixl, but with several other programs I'm getting some strange feedback when I hook up headphones to the iRig. I suspect that the iPad apps have to run an echo-canceller of some kind to eliminate that feedback with the iRig.
I'd be exilliarated if iRealbook would even just include a very rudimentary audio input, just before the reverb, with inputlevel control.
For me that would be sufficient for jazz-practice.
i sometimes just use my archtop acoustically , playing along with irealbook and iphone hooked up to a cheap small portable battery speaker. works ok!
The thing is, I've been working hard to create a totally standalone headphone practice solution. I already have Band In A Box along wiith Line 6 Ampfarm as well as all the PA, mixers, and amps I've collected over the years. iReal Book was a godsend for me as it practically gave me what I enjoyed in BIAB on a small portable device. I've used it successfully as backing tracks for a guitar jam I host at my house, by plugging it into my computer's audio interface. In that situation, I play out of my normal amp. However, I envisioned this as a standalone practice solution. If I wanted to plug into this and that and chain myself to more gear, I would stick to what I have been doing. I've been really enjoying IK Multimedia's Amplitude for iPhone and it has the ability to import 50 songs in mp3 format, so I've loaded those up with backing tracks to jam over. It would be nice to be able to load up a song from iReal Book or better yet be able to play both at the same time. If I could do that I would have the best portable practice solution around! I have tried all the portable Tascam mp3 trainers but the tones are just bad, and it's a hassle importing jam tracks, especially ones made from BIAB. Here I have an app with pretty good tone, and iReal Book with it's limitless library and great playback feature, perfect for a portable solution but no way for the two to communicate with each other. Ah well, a few years ago, I never thought you could do this type of thing with a cell phone, so I have faith that the brilliant developers will be able to figure this out in time.
I hope we get there too. Remember iOS multitasking has just come (and currently we are all still waiting for it on iPad.) So developments on the iOS in the future should help us all.
What about a Line 6 Pocket Pod? $99. Run the headphone out into the Pod, guitar to Pod and monitor from the Pod?
I too am very disappointed that I can't run the IRig and REALBOOK at the same time.
I love both of the apps and combing them would be awesome. Hopefully someone will figure out a way to do this soon.
The new Amplitube update for IPad is out but it doesn't work. They said you can't run two IOS programs at the same time. If anyone has a solution that will allow two IOS apps to work at the same time please share....thank you
I think this is not a multitasking issue but an audio output thing. You can setup amplitube to run in background (setup -> last option) and switch to iRealbook then. As long as the player is not running you can hear your instrument. But as soon as iRealbook player starts, the audio from Amplitube is gone. That's it. Maybe someone from IK can help to integrate with iRealbook?
cheers
EKKI
I use a headphone amp made by Vox called the 'amplug'.
The beauty of it is it plugs directly into my bass, and has an aux in which I run my iPhone into (you'll need a stereo mini cable to connect it - I use a Belkin retractable cable)
There are a number of different models for guitar depending on the sound you're after, and one bass model. Sound quality is pretty decent. Uses 2xAAA batteries which the website says will last about 15 hours (about right in my experience).
http://www.voxamps.com/amplug/
I am hearing rumors that the iPhone 5 will have a duo core processor which will possibly make multi-tasking more of a reality.
Hi everyone.
I have an iPad and the Amplitube iRig. If I in the setup choose "background audio" to be ON. Then I can close the AmpliTube app (so it is running in the background). After that I can start apps like EasyBeats LE and play my bass along with the drum rhythms. But if I start iReal Book instead then it just silence the output from AmpliTube.
I have to test this evening if it is some settings in the AmpliTube recorder/mixer. But my guess is that iReal Book stops all output from the other apps.
And last, this app is just totally awesome. Respect to everyone involved to make this app available!!!
/Jocke
Sorry everyone. I just read all the posts and see that other people run into the same situation. Sorry to bother you again. :-)
Hi, I just posted this in another thread but maybe it fits here better:
First of all I just wanted to give a big thumbs up for this great app! I'm using it a lot when playing sessions.
I was kind of getting really excited about your announcement of the new possibility of having the player and the amplitube audio playing simultaneously (in the newestversion irealb 4.0).
However I can't seem to get that to work. Every time I switch over to amplitube the player fades out and the other way around.
I have background audio enabled in both apps. Any way to get this to work properly? I'm on an iPod touch 4G running iOS 4.1.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Follow the instructions (Tap the ? question mark)
In iReal b, you need to turn OFF background audio (this is the first step in the instructions.)
Make sure you press Play on the Player (second step) ... if you miss out this step it will probably not work - pressing play activates the code behind background audio. Amplitube has background audio ON.
Also update the iOS.
Once it is working, you can remain in iReal b to change songs and activate the player.
I will delete your duplicate post.
Okay, thanks a lot for your help. I have it running in German language and the instructions are not correct there.
The German text says: "Schalten Sie Hintergrund-Audio in den Einstellungen der iReal b." There is a very important word missing here: Schalten means (to) switch, not to turn off so the word "off" is missing.
So you could either write: "Schalten Sie Hintergrund-Audio in den Einstellungen von iReal b ab." or "Deaktivieren Sie Hintergrund-Audio in den Einstellungen von iReal b." The second version is probably more elegant. I think it might be helpful to put some emphasis on the deactivation as opposed to activation because it is somewhat counter-intuitive IMHO. The rest of the instructions is understandable but grammatically incorrect too. You probably used some auto translation.
I'll take the time to correct it for you:
The next paragraph is okay, but then it should be: "Öffnen Sie Amplitube. Stellen Sie sicher, dass ihr Instrument zu hören ist. Aktivieren Sie Hintergrund-Audio im Setup."
The last paragraph should read: "Gehen Sie zurück zu iReal b und starten Sie den Player erneut. Sie hören nun sowohl das Audio Signal von Amplitube als auch den iReal b Player."
I think that should be correct. Unfortunately I don't have your original English text.
Anyways, I got it to work like that now, even without upgrading my firmware from 4.1, so thanks a lot once again.
Hmmm... not so good for me. This feature would make an already excellent app the best app I've got if I could get it to work!
This is what I did, and what happens. First, I have an iTouch 2.1, running iOS 4.2.1.
1. I turned background audio off in iRealb.
2. I pulled up a tune, and pressed play. Song plays (sounds great btw).
3. I click the command button on my iTouch to access Amplitube...iRealb audio slowly fades out.
4. I open amplitube, and hear my bass playing...no iRealb song though.
5. Background audio is already on, so I leave it, though on a couple attempts, I turn it off then on.
6. I click the iTouch command button again to open iRealb, and my bass fades to nothing.
7. I activate iRealb, and the song I selected is shown, but not the play screen, and there is no audio. The song has stopped.
8. I open the play screen, start the song, it plays from 00.00, and there is no bass from me with it.
btw, I am using the Peavey Ampkit Link, but Amplitube has no problem with it.
Can you see where anything I've done is wrong, or if the equipment I have is just not up to it? I want to make this work in such a bad way!!!
Do you mean you have an iPod Touch gen2?
It will not work. Multitasking is not available on this model - even though the iOS version does on more recent devices (gen3 etc.)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4205
Ampkit updated:
http://agilepartners.com/
update includes multitasking support (audio in background)
I've read through the thread, and have a couple of questions:
If you don't need amp modeling or effects, the easiest solution would seem to be an external headphone amp like the Vox Amplug or PocketRocket. In this case, iRB runs as the only task on IOS, and the iRB output is mixed with the instrument in the external box. Sound right?
If you want amp modeling etc, the iRig or Ampkit Link will send the instrument signal into the iPhone where it gets processed and mixed with the mp3 or iRB output. OK so far?
In the second case, either the iRig or Ampkit Link can be used with iRB playing, as long as you have the new version of the Ampkit app. Yes/No? Either of these hardware choice preferable?
Other hardware options are popping up:
* Line-6 Mobile In
* Sonoma WireWorks Guitar Jack 2
* Alesis iO Dock
These seem focused on recording, but anyone tried them for just practicing?
Thanks....Lyle
yes to all.
Ampkit is just one of apps that run in the background. I like Amplitube too (yes it works with Ampkit Link.)
Export the file as a .wav
Open up Garageband import the track to a vocal track. Make a new track for your guitar or bass. Works like a charm. I do use the iRig but not Amplitube...spent too much money for it on the iPhone and then would have to buy everything again. Garageband works even better.