I'm not sure this is possible.
This may be a pipe dream?
I've attempted scanning into Finale with not much luck.
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Would like to sort song list by key signature. New to this forum - hope I posted this in the right place - if not, please advise! Thanks!
Since all charts are key-labile, any chart can be instantly transposed to any key, and the key isn't fixed, i'm not sure what a key signature sort would accomplish.
You could already set this up for personal use by including your preferred key for a chart IN THE TITLE.
Then a keyword search of your song index would instantly list all songs labeled ”Eb" no matter what key the chart might have been transposed to.
It would be helpful if there were a searchable "tag" field on each chart other than just the title.
A way for users to attach multiple user-tags or keywords to individual songs in the index would be very useful.
The tags for a song might be entered (and displayed) ONLY in the song editor, perhaps as a second (hidden) line in the title field. The tag/keyword line would not display on the chart in song view, but still might be searchable using the current song index (title) search field.
Without needing to maintain many separate playlists, a user could instantly, using the index search, bring-up all charts they've tagged as Sinatra, Cole, Como, Beatles, wedding, holiday, 1940's, a vocalist(s) or band(s) they perform with, or any other keyword(s) they chose to attach...*
Currently, users append personal notes in the title which is quite cumbersome.
:))BOB
Back in September, I made a request of a similar kind (see the quote above). Instead of a searchable field with keywords, I'd be willing to maintain a number of playlists with different characteristics if I could identify which playlists any song were in, and if I could also do standard database-type manipulations on the lists. With thousands of songs on our devices, we need to be able to sort and filter them in various ways. I think that using playlists would be more reliable, because tags can be misspelled when entered, making them useless, whereas a song either is in a playlist or it isn't. In any case, I do hope that something can be done to help us manage these large song collections. I agree with Bob that appending notes in the title is not an efficient system, and adds information that another would find superfluous when a chord chart is downloaded.Quote:
I have started to gig again (solo piano) and am using iReal Pro with about half of the tunes I play. For each gig, I prepare a playlist. I also have lists of tunes to choose from. Thus, I am beginning to have many playlists, which contain some of the same songs from list to list. I now find that there is little facility to edit, merge, and compare playlists within iReal Pro. I have partially solved the problem by using the Share feature to e-mail each playlist to my computer, saving the attached playlist to a file, and printing the file with a pdf printer driver to create pdfs of a list of the titles within each playlist. OK--so now I can more easily compare what's in each playlist, but I still can't merge the playlists. Nor can I go to a song title and find out if it is a playlist(s), and which list(s) it is in.
Thanks for the reply, Bob!
My goal with “key signature sort” was to be able practice/ learn multiple songs in the same key - so, for instance, if I wanted to focus on songs in the key of Eb, then I could sort all Eb songs and learn them one by one.
I understand the keys are all changeable and transposable but I was referring to what I thought would be the original key from the original composition. Of course, when people upload their own version of popular songs, it could be in any random key…
Thanks for the suggestion about amending the title to include the key signature. That will work for me when i get time to look through songs and add the key to the title. Thanks!
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I second this:
- compare playlists
- view playlists a song BELONGS TO
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As of now, in order to find, organize or delete duplicates, I open the backup file as text, save all single playlists to text files, and do searches for "text in file", and when I download a playlist I risk more duplicates...
Ah, what defines the default (er, correct?) key for a song?
Is it the key of the earliest published sheet music?
The key as published in widely distributed real(fake) books?
The key performed in the most well-known recording? Or popular, or earliest?
How about, simply how I prefer to play it?
Sometimes they are the same, often they're not.
I suspect the default designation of the keys for most tunes in the main playlists were simply based on, "as commonly played".
An important iRp feature is the app's ability to instantly transpose any song, as well as to easily maintain differently keyed versions in multiple playlists to accomodate different ensembles and vocalists.
It's clear from this thread, that the needs expressed by many are different and varied.
Every added feature increases the design complexity, the complexity of the user interface, the "clutter" on the tiny screens that some prefer, as well as the end user's learning curve, the length of the instruction manual(s) not to mention confusion..
"Better" for some, isn't necessarily better for others.
:))BOB
Easy, actually: its default key, as saved in the "info" section.
Playlist keys or transpositions shouldn't matter, in search. Or at least, it'd my business to keep that into account.
Understand, and generally agree.
But - if there is a feature, people will figure out how to use it as they need/wish.
I still think it's a great app without the key search; could be better... ;-)
Thank you everyone for your thoughts on this—much appreciated.
If you are learning a specific key, I would suggest making a Playlist for them, and then any song you later find in that key can be easily added. Although not a 'smart playlist' I am sure this would give you enough practice songs until you are proficient enough to bring up any song and transpose to any key you wish to practice in. Also in that playlist could be songs not set in that key but ones you wish to practice in that key anyway (the playlist remembers those songs in the transposed key but remain in their default keys, or any other it is set to, elsewhere).
I also agree with adding the key to the title. I often duplicate the song then append its title, adding either the band or singer's name (or key in your case). Usually they go into band or singer playlists but sometimes not needed. Then use Search for just that text string. For instance, 'Autumn Leaves pxc' then search for pxc and they all list. For singers, I change the default key to their key, sometimes I even put the key in the title also so I see it in the Songs index (I often don't really need the chart, just the key). Also being a duplicate, I can add a specific intro or ending they require.
I realise some of you are more advanced players and want lists based on keys for specific reasons. Thanks for your thoughts on this, which we have here for reference. Additional comments welcome.
This may already have been asked for, but I'd like to see a switch we could use to ignore repeats on Playback. It would help when checking just the sound of an arrangement. Finale can do this, for example; it's quite useful.
I'd also like the ability to choose to post a playlist to the Forum without also separately posting each individual song in that playlist. For example, a playlist of exercises and particular tune arrangements from a oertain method book. Someone who owns the book would want all of them amyway; if you don't own the book, you wouldn't want any of them. It keeps my posts a lot shorter, and the Forum less cluttered, when I do this, but it's quite a little project presently.
Just wanted to say I think the new styles (and tweaks on the old styles) are wonderful. Happy I'll have the trad/N.O. styles when Mardi Gras rolls around (love the tuba 'n' banjo!). Blue Note sounds great and is a much-needed alternative to using a Latin style on "boogaloo" material. I also find myself switching many swing tunes to Medium Up Swing 2 (the new ride cymbal is excellent) or to the more laid-back Guitar Trio and Doo Doo Cats settings (although I have to say, during my 50 years playing jazz I've never heard the term "doo doo cats"). Lastly, I can't thank you enough for the drumstick count-in option and volume control. Going through all my old charts to make adjustments will take some time, but with these new styles it's certainly worth the effort.
Oh, and since this is the "Future Requests" thread, I'll request a Western Swing style. ;)
I want to ditto the post above, especially with regard to the new Styles and drumsticks clicks, particularly on 2-4. And I still can't get over how Massimo's bass lines always seem to work. Terrific! Only thing is, iReal Pro should come with an addiction warning. I find myself inventing projects for it, when I should be shedding with my instrument. 😊
The ability to Playback an invisible chord in the first measure without a preceding chord, just to get the bass note. Recently, I've needed a simple "boom-cha" intro several times.
Alternatively, the ability to enter and Playback "N.C./B" just to get that B bass note alone, which can't be entered now.
Of course, if anyone knows a workaround for this, I'd sure appreciate knowing it. Thanks.
EDIT: Just discovered that the invisible chord feature W/C in iRP already can play just the bass note (in these examples C) without also replaying the most recent chord if you put a period between the W and the / like this: W./C
What shows on the chart is not noticeably different from what you see with the usual W/C. You need only one N.C. or an actual chord at the beginning of the Intro. Only drawback is a small one: When you start Playback you get an initial ERROR message that you remove by tapping OK.
Anatevka Intro - Hal Leonard HL00359861 (1983, but in reprint) pp.49-52
I thought by dividing one measure into two and then doubling the tempo but that didn't work.
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I've never used the invisible root before.
Does somebody have an example of how it's used?
It would be a cool feature to be able to have any chord be bass only. (or any other instrument)
Basically to mute a part for a specific measure.
That would be a pretty advanced feature.
Funny how the play-along feature has advanced.
Most of my friends and associates just use the chart feature.
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I can see where in certain situations like where you have a 32 bar A section and you want to here the transition to the B section it would be nice to here the transition without listening to the whole A section.
I think I'd just remove the repeat in edit mode and check itv there then put it back in.
Along the same lines , I wish there was a way to check a second ending transition.
Any solution would probably be too complicated to implement.
I don't understand this question.?:confused:
I love the bass books you've posted as they are.:)
fyi
I have some of the actual books and The exercises are still interesting at a certain level without the books.
I bought the Magnussen book. It's okay but it's mostly for electric players(despite the cover) >the early exercises are extremely difficult for the upright requiring thumb position.
I am using it though to learn the bass guitar and the tabs are useful for that.
Of all the books you've done are there any that are geared more for the upright bass?
When I was a beginner I could have really used tabs or fingerings in the books I had.
The double bass community seems to think you have to figure them out yourself or pay somebody to show you.
"Of all the books you've done are there any that are geared more for the upright bass?"
I'll take another look at my books with that question in mind. I play an unusual fretless upright, but it's tuned like a double bass, so I identify with that community. But you really do figure out your own fingerings, depending on, e. g., which F you want, where you're coming from and where you're going next.
Try using a variation of this drums-only section to bring in the intro:
http://www.irealb.com/forums/showthr...6605#post16605
Interesting, DaleMac! Using your suggestion, I've come up with this:
Anatevka Intro 1 - Hal Leonard HL00359861 (1983, but in reprint) pp.49-52
It still has the problem of the Drum playing in the opening beat of the N.C. measure, but the team is aware of that problem and will fix, I understand. Also, I had to set it up with 4 repeats of one measure using a close repeat bracket because without the close repeat bracket it would sound the next invisible chord unless I put an N.C. in the fourth beat of each preceding bar, and doing that artificially cut off the chord in the third beat. This is the best workaround so far. Thanks!
E.g., Gershwin. On my sheet music for "I Loves You, Porgy" it starts at q=59, but then at about measure 33 it jumps up to q=108 for the last 30-some measures. Be nice if Playback could handle that somehow.
E.g., Gershwin, again. My sheet music for "I Loves You, Porgy" has a measure with eight chord changes on the eighths followed by a measure with five changes. Nice if Playback could handle that. Need chords on the eighths for Gershwin in quite a few tunes.
Gershwin, again.
I have two small suggestions for the next version.
In edit mode, I would like a key added to the chord keyboard. The key should insert a single bar line at the end of a space on the chord chart. Presently, there is a key that inserts a single bar line at the beginning of a space. Adding this new key would avoid having to switch to the symbols keyboard at the end of a line. It's a small thing but I think this change would make editing a bit easier.
In edit mode, with regard to inserting text, there are three keyboards. On the #+= keyboard, I would like a flat symbol to be added. Presently, one must use a lower case b to designate a flat symbol, but a true flat symbol would be nicer.
Thanks for your work on iReal Pro. It continues to improve with each version. I wish I could always say the same about my piano playing…
Ditto Keith re the♭key on the #+= keyboard in Edit. And if you can remove the extra blank spaces that come attached to the front and the back of the ♭ symbol (like that one) even better. Also, the # symbol is not the same as the ♯ symbol, and since neither the * nor the = keys function in Edit mode anyway, how about replacing them with♭and ♯, side by side? Lastly, re the #+= keyboard, how about replacing ~, €, £ and ¥, which we never need, with ♮, ∆, ø and o? (The♮has the same spacing problem that♭has.)
Where would we use these symbols? In various text notes in charts and right here in the Forums just talking to each other like we are now, for examples.
Seems like all we do is come up with more work for you guys doesn't it? Well, that doesn't mean we don't apprecuate iRP as THE most fantastic app out there.
Regarding Keith's request to add a closing |-bar key to the chord keyboard: If space is a problem with Keith's request, how about just replacing the existing opening |-bar with a closing one? Especially since entering a closing |-bar at the end of a system automatically enters an opening |-bar at the front of the next system anyway.
I think Jack (Nimbleswitch) makes some excellent suggestions. I do think there is room for both an opening and closing single bar line key on the chord keyboard and would have both. I use the text insertion feature in edit mode for a number of reasons. For me, the currency keys are a total waste; the addition of more musical symbols then just the ♭ symbol, as Nimbleswitch suggests, makes great sense.
Keith, I suspect they're going to tell us that the #+= keyboard is an Apple product, part of the iOS, and that iRP can't change it. Let's hope that's not the case, though.
Features for Bass (electric bass or upright) are completely missing! Minimal items would be walking bass lines, arpeggios, fretboard fingering, etc.
Check the "chord diagrams" screen in the player. You can also select bass-clef and view scales in notation.
If you want to transcribe or view the (walking) bass-lines constructed by the player (new accompaniment each time), you can export the midi-data and use outboard equipment and software to display it.
iReal pro is a chord-chart app. The developer has provided information about the notes contained in each chord and where those notes are located in different voicings/positions. What to play is up to the musician.
:))BOB
As Nimbleswitch said, it will automatically add a right barline at the end of a system when you insert one at the beginning of the next system. If you want any other barline at the end (double, final, repeat) you will have to change to Symbols for all the choices.
You should be able to copy the flat or sharp symbol from the chord box then paste into the text box. I have not tested this extensively to see if there are any (bad) consequences in doing this, but it seems to work in my quick tests.
Yes, you can copy and paste ♭,♮, ♯, ø, o and ∆ from the chord box or some other source to a text box or to this Forum, as I just did here, but it's cumbersome, AND the♭and the♮always come with non-removable spaces, front and back. So, e.g., Cm7♭5 looks unnatural and takes up more space.
Any chance of the iRP crew substituting its own #+= keyboard into iRP?
As things go, this request is a small thing. I suspect my requests for better management of songs and playlists (that is, being able to tell which playlists a song is in) and a global setting for maintaining the tempo of a song when a style is changed will give the development team greater challenges but will really improve iRP beyond its already wonderful utility.
As a follow-up to yesterday's post, I quote some of my post from 11/17/2014. As a further headache for our beleaguered developers, I have a further suggestion: nested folders for playlists. I'm starting to amass too many playlists to easily handle. For example, I have a different playlist for each gig I play. I also have playlists for singers, tunes I'm working on, exercises, etc. It would be great if I had the ability to have a folder named "Gig Playlists" and put all of my playlists for previous gigs in this folder; likewise for other groups of playlists. I could, of course, back up each individual playlist on my desktop computer and then delete the playlist on my iPad, but this would mean that if I wanted to restore a playlist, I'd be downloading copies of chord charts that are already on my iPad, making a mess of my song collection with unnecessary duplicates. This request, as well as others, probably requires a lot of non-musical work (=programming) by the development team, as I well know. However, this is a thread for feature requests…
Refering to the suggestion that the iRP team come up with its own #+= keyboard that includes ♭,♮, ♯, ø, o and ∆ :
Hey, I'm just glad to learn it really can be done and might be considered. That'll be a really useful feature I'll look forward to iRP having. Thanks.
Jack