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    CyrilleB,

    As Bob says, the problem with specifying the number of repeats with repeat bars and #X is that you have to keep track in your head. With say, 8 repeats, one could easily lose track.

    The Coda is the "out" marker.

    Tunes in which the Head and Solos are identical obviously are not a problem. The problem is when the Head and Solo sections differ, and there's not enough room to repeat the whole Head.

    Here's a solution using Keith's example that requires just one extra bar instead of repeating the Head:

    Put the D.S. command in a one-bar Coda, which takes you back to the Head in the Intro.

    The FINE command is on G7, but it actually goes into the first beat of an imaginary next bar, which defaults to the (invisible) tonic chord, C.

    Of course, if you want to add an extended ending this won't work. It would be good if there were additional "jump to" commands, like extra Codas.

    Repeat Test 1-Rev JE - Keith

    Cheers,
    Jer
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    Nice one Jer!
    Easier to understand by viewing the chart/seeing it in action.
    It's a good trick to have in your bag.
    )BOB

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    Thanks, Bob.

    I rarely do this in practice, though, because I do like to put an extension on the end of a tune rather than end it abruptly.

    Cheers,
    Jer
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    A D.S. al Fine within a coda! Jer, this is a most imaginative approach. I think that Cyrille's suggestion for an outro rehearsal mark would be a useful addition to the editor. Also, as I sometimes use the same material as an intro and an outro, it might be useful to have an intro-outro rehearsal mark as well.

    Our problems seem to emanate from the limitation of the number of lines that an iRP chart can have. This leads to the confusion around the use of the coda mark. Normally, a coda is only played once in a music score, at the very end. However, many charts use D.C (or D.S.) al Coda within them in order to avoid repeating a line or two; in this case the "coda" is played each time the chart is run through, making the "coda" part of each repetition instead of a true coda section. I've often rewritten charts that I have downloaded to remove the coda sign and replace it by a third ending when I have the space to do so. If our charts could vertically scroll, so that we could have more than thirteen lines in a chart, many of our problems with codas, repeats, and the like would disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith88 View Post
    A D.S. al Fine within a coda! Jer, this is a most imaginative approach. I think that Cyrille's suggestion for an outro rehearsal mark would be a useful addition to the editor. Also, as I sometimes use the same material as an intro and an outro, it might be useful to have an intro-outro rehearsal mark as well.

    Our problems seem to emanate from the limitation of the number of lines that an iRP chart can have. This leads to the confusion around the use of the coda mark. Normally, a coda is only played once in a music score, at the very end. However, many charts use D.C (or D.S.) al Coda within them in order to avoid repeating a line or two; in this case the "coda" is played each time the chart is run through, making the "coda" part of each repetition instead of a true coda section. I've often rewritten charts that I have downloaded to remove the coda sign and replace it by a third ending when I have the space to do so. If our charts could vertically scroll, so that we could have more than thirteen lines in a chart, many of our problems with codas, repeats, and the like would disappear.
    Keith,

    Oh, yes, indeed!

    I suppose we're lucky iReal Pro is as versatile as it is, as it was originally intended just as a practice tool, and the creator subsequently added more features to satisfy the expanded use of the users.

    It's ridiculously cheap at only, what, $20? I'd gladly pay $100 for some of the additional features we've been asking for.

    Cheers,
    Jer
    Jerry Engelbach
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